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Aram,

As usual, you’re projecting your own negative qualities onto others. You accuse me of being a “non-responsive witness”. The truth is, I’ve answered every question thats been posed to me. Youre the one who has consistently evaded the questions Ive posed to you.

You accuse me of "insatiable blood lust“ for the Palestinians. This is utter nonsense. I’ve never had any desire to shed the blood of anyone. But if someone tries to harm me, I will certainly do whatever I can to make sure they don’t succeed. On the other hand, you seem to have bloodlust against Israeli Jews, demanding that the entire Jewish population of Israel be ethnically cleansed and forcibly removed from their homeland.

You also invert the truth by describing Israel as a genocidal state. The truth is, from the time Jews started returning to their historic homeland in large numbers, they always offered peace to the Arabs, but the Arab leaders opted instead for conflict. When Israel declared its independence in 1948, Arab leaders called for a war of extermination against it. The Hamas charter to this day calls for the extermination of Jews. Whatever Israel has done in self-defense has been fully justified by the ongoing threats it faced and continues to face.

Martin Wasserman


> On Sep 3, 2025, at 11:56 PM, Aram James wrote:
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> On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 11:49 PM Aram James > wrote:
>> 9/4/2025
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>> Hi Henry,
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>> Martin is being a non-responsive witness. Instead of answering your question he is using the old technique of answering a question with a question. Based on my dialogue exchange with Martin over many months if he was being honest, his answer would reflex an extension of his insatiable blood lust for the Palestinian people.
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>> In other words, if anyone, even the entire population of the planet, were in his view hostile to the interests of Israel, threatened their existence, he would gladly nuke the entirety of mankind to save the approximate 12 million Jews. In his heart of hearts he believes, been taught in the synagogue, that Jews are just superior to all non Jews.
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>> That’s the reason he claims ignorance of your question. Its just too difficult for Martin to say this outloud. Your friend Martin represents the quintessential white male and white female Jewish Zionist Supremacists that has been terrorizing the Palestinians since at least the year of my birth, in 1948.
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>> Like a petulant child with parents unwilling to set boundaries for the their children the world has turned a blind eye to Israel’s genocidal behavior since its birth in 1948. Now the entire world is seeing live, up close and personal the monster they have created. Martin is just one example of the monster mentality we have
>> allowed to existed unchecked in israel. Time to eliminate the monster.
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>> Avram” One State Solution” Finkelstein
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>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 10:39 PM Martin Wasserman > wrote:
>>> Im not sure I know what youre talking about, but OK, what are your core premises about how Israel should deal with Gaza?
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>>> Marty
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>>>> On Sep 3, 2025, at 10:31 PM, Henry Etzkowitz > wrote:
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>>>> Apologies, Marty Spotlight on Gaza. No diversion. The families insist!
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>>>> Henry Etzkowitz
>>>> Etz Chaim member
>>>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.triplehelix.net&c=E,1,XfOH_fpI1BhmI7fHkAtjebNY3nJ7bk4kx5Q7ZhLOT4bNT37m0jAel68o-FFvrpLTcjvwJjBEU_QlR2qspRHb-uM3LDQthLllPpmbgFX6UsXS3WOY0g,,&typo=1
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>>>>> On Sep 3, 2025, at 9:11 AM, Martin Wasserman > wrote:
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>>>>> Henry,
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>>>>> Im glad that our discussion is getting down to core premises, and Im very interested to know what your core premises are regarding how Israel should deal with its hostile neighbors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marty
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>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2025, at 6:12 AM, Henry Etzkowitz > wrote:
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>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have arrived at a correct conclusion re “dear cost” from incorrect premises, a not unusual occurrence; a potential learning experience, nevertheless
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2025, at 8:22 PM, Martin Wasserman > wrote:
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Henry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israel has certainly made a lot of mistakes in Gaza. The biggest mistake of course was the forcible evacuation of all the Jewish communities there in 2005, which led directly to the Hamas takeover.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, before October 7, Hamas started several other wars with Israel. In each one Israel was content to let it end inconclusively, with Hamas still in power. Another mistake in my view.
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>>>>>>> Its been said that Netanyahu was content to leave Hamas in power, because as long as Palestinian leadership was divided, there was no chance of establishing a Palestinian state. If so, I think he made a major mistake. There are plenty of other ways to rule out the idea of a Palestinian state without using the excuse of divided Palestinian leadership.
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>>>>>>> I also dont believe Netanyahu was looking for an excuse to invade Gaza. I think war in Gaza was the last thing he wanted. He often said that as long as Gaza was quiet, Israel would also be quiet. Of course, while Gaza was being quiet, Hamas was busily perfecting its plans for attack.
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>>>>>>> Regarding ethnic cleansing, although there are certainly people in Israel who would like to see that happen, its never been government policy. If it was, theyre doing a very poor job of it. But if it turns out that Hamas is so deeply embedded in the civilian population that the only way to eliminate it is to remove the population itself, then its possible that could happen, and in that case it would be justified. But so far Israel has been very careful to direct its fire in such a way so as not only to avoid risking the lives of the hostages, but also to avoid risking the lives of Gazan civilians. Of course this is very hard because of Hamas’ policy of hiding behind those civilians and using them as human shields.
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>>>>>>> True, the longer the war drags on, the worse it is for Israel. Israel needs to deliver a knockout blow to Hamas and then extend its control over the Strip so it can’t recuperate. To do this will require much more robust rules of engagement, and the same level of commitment to victory that the US had in World War II.
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>>>>>>> Even though it may be tempting to quit before the job is complete, if the war ends with Hamas still in power, after all the sacrifices Israel has made, it will be seen worldwide, and rightly so, as a major victory for Hamas and a major defeat for Israel, which will cost the Jewish state very dearly in the years to come.
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>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2025, at 12:27 PM, Henry Etzkowitz > wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Dear Marty
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the record. Israel helped stand up Hamas (Israeli public sources)
>>>>>>>> as part of its Palestinian divide and conquer strategy. Given its superior intelligence capabilities eg Iran leadership bodyguard Cell phone numbers; it was surely privy to Hamas plans
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>>>>>>>> Even if not, the young unarmed female soldiers, detailed as Hamas watchers reported, persistently, attack’s imminence yet IDF forces were largely withdrawn: either implicit complicity or total incompetence. Why? An excuse to invade Gaza, as followed. Of course, execution got out of hand and other factions and freelancers entered the breach.
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>>>>>>>> Eliminate Hamas No way! it serves a useful purpose for the Netenyahu government in providing an excuse to persist in ethnic cleansing+
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>>>>>>>> moreover, there is an associated dynamic: as attacks on Gaza increase; more Gazans are incentivized to join the only credible, available resistance. Ironically, by persisting in this ill conceived war, with no attainable goal, Israeli military and society weakens itself, making Aram’s elimination happen through self-immolation. One half million Israelis have already avoluntarily relocated to the United States
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>>>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>>>> 3rd generation Zionist
>>>>>>>> Hillel aka Henry
>>>>>>>> Neighbors for Environmental and Social Justice
>>>>>>>> www.triple https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fhelix.net&c=E,1,w6K0WVVnSoeUWI6LVdJ3vszneA_QhooeULZxyjHPCcsOz8gm9xBT2ExvfL3GSLur1ViaqbBOmW5qVmZgE8Dt7DJ3Sa-sCLhBrb9rSkdZpJlULDDj8aYYtYnmHA,,&typo=1
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>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2025, at 12:38 PM, Aram James > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Ceasefire Resolution Discussion
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>>>>>>>>> Hi Julie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I want to bring to your attention that Martin is simply repeating talking points from the pro-Israel lobby. In contrast, Henry’s reasoning for urging the city council to support a ceasefire resolution stems from years of critical thinking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At the very least, please advocate for the council to prioritize a ceasefire resolution given the drastically deteriorating situation in Gaza and the West Bank. If there is a thorough public debate and the full council ultimately votes against the resolution, the public will at least have the opportunity to hear each council members rationale for their decision. This would be a true demonstration of democracy in action.
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>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aram
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 12:03 PM, Martin Wasserman > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Julie,
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>>>>>>>>>> As a concerned voter and an Oak Creek resident, I strongly urge you to reject Henrys ill-conceived demand to push for a Gaza ceasefire resolution in the City Council. Such a resolution would have no effect on anything in Gaza, but would merely create dissension and strife here at home.
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>>>>>>>>>> A unilateral Israeli ceasefire would leave Hamas in power, leave the hostages in captivity, and effectively end Israel’s campaign to remove this menace on its southern border. Hamas is a committed enemy not only of Israel and of Jews, but also of the United States, of Western civilization itself, and indeed of anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their religious ideology.
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>>>>>>>>>> Hamas, as one branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, has as its ultimate goal the imposition of Islamic law on the entire globe, by force and violence if necessary. If we try to restrain Israel from fighting this ideology in Gaza, we’ll soon be fighting it ourselves on the streets of America.
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>>>>>>>>>> The way to resolve the humanitarian crisis in Gaza is to first let Israel defeat Hamas, and after that focus on the civilian needs. As long as the oppressive and terrorist Hamas regime remains in power, life will never improve for ordinary Gazans.
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>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Martin Wasserman
>>>>>>>>>> Concerned Citizen
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2025, at 4:18 AM, Henry Etzkowitz > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Julie,
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>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your service. Given your position on the dais, it is expected of you to use it or lose it? As your then 82 year old supporter, I bent over like a strawberry picker and slipped hundreds of your campaign leaflets under Oak Creek doors. I am asking you now for return on investment, on the one hand, and on the other, to take the ethical course of action and place into a resolution before Council, the plea for cease fire that you aver you have made in writing and in public fora. We, the Palo Alto voters have elected you to carry out our wishes and to support you in acting according to your conscience. Fortunately, in this instance two classic, item opposing political motives, coincide. Julie, it is incumbent upon you to introduce a “ceasefire now in Gaza”resolution,
>>>>>>>>>>> Invited to be seconded by George, who received the support of the Palo Alto Muslim community. He will be inspired as well by the Confucian ethic he learned in “Chinese school in Palo Alto.” Hopefully, all members of Council will join to make this position unanimous.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Like the attorney who persuaded the Supreme Court to briefly open a window to make an exception to the statute of limitations, precluding a holocaust victim from seeking restitution, Council may similarly put aside its prohibition on intervening in international issues to take a position on one that has become local and globally humane.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Henry Etzkowitz
>>>>>>>>>>> Neighbors for Environmental and Social Justice
>>>>>>>>>>> 2024 Candidate for Palo Alto City Council
>>>>>>>>>>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.triplehelix.net&c=E,1,RdqG8hw1TRaN7qhfsnnLUKU_aFxe0sGZBU80jaAjrdiKQT43E6y2BG1p8GTfsWmFmmkwRC99ockQYbpOuDDeuF3Xz6Gptay-2Y0gZ5updB2mLhSx&typo=1
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2025, at 3:28 PM, Aram James > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But not as. Oh zero
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 2:47 PM Lythcott-Haims, Julie > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since late 2023, I’ve called for a ceasefire, both in writing, and in a public forum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Julie: But here were the questions I posed to you below: can you answer these questions:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie came closest to breaking the silence, (1) but to my knowledge, she has NEVER demanded of her colleagues that a ceasefire resolution be placed on the council agenda for a robust public discussion and a subsequent vote. (2)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Similarly, unless I missed it, Julie has NEVER called out or spoken from the dais: "End the Genocide Now!"
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you are kind enough to get back to me on the two questions above I want to get back to your calls for a cease fire.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, your supporter for a long time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aram
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie Lythcott-Haims
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palo Alto City Council Member
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Click to make an Office Hours appointment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2025, at 1:09 PM, Henry Etzkowitz > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Be cautious of opening attachments and clicking on links.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Takes both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2025, at 11:58 AM, Aram James > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henry,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You say things so poetically!! Me more like a bull dog or sledge hammer than a poet!!
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avram “End The Genocide Now!! Finkelstein
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2025 at 11:05 AM Henry Etzkowitz > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie charter member Council “wall of silence”
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Incumbents persisting will be too shamed and ashamed to seek reelection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2025, at 10:02 AM, Aram James > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI: Brian—here is an exchange you may have missed. Was sent to most of the usual suspects.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 10:58 PM Aram James > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My dear brave friend Henry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie came closest to breaking the silence, but to my knowledge, she has NEVER demanded of her colleagues that a ceasefire resolution be placed on the council agenda for a robust public discussion and a subsequent vote. Similarly, unless I missed it, Julie has NEVER called out or spoken from the dais: "End the Genocide Now!"
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As MLK said: “The time is always right to do what is right.”
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sleep well my friend,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aram
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. Julie, if my recollection is wrong, I invite you to correct the record.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2025, at 10:20 PM, Henry Etzkowitz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dear Aram
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Upon reflection, agree with your assessment. Despite minor differences in progressiveness on other issues; there is an implacable wall on Gaza cease Fire when implored in succession, there was not a flicker of sympathy from the impassive diased.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henry
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ps Marjorie Taylor Green is now cited as moral political role model
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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