Hi Avram,
Thanks for sharing your family background with me. It explains a lot. But your fathers obituary that you said was attached to the email wasnt there. Please send it because Im interested in reading it.
I would divide Jews into two main camps, what I call the Camp of Belief and the Camp of Disbelief. A believer would say that God is real, His covenant with Israel is real, its applicable to all generations of Jews, and if we fulfill the terms of the covenant we’ll be assured of great blessings, but if we rebel against it or refuse to follow it, we’ll be subjected to great calamities. A disbeliever would say that God doesnt exist, theres no covenant, theres no need to obey any biblical laws, and everyone should do exactly as they please.
Since neither camp can prove its case empirically, belief or disbelief is largely a matter of choice. Ive chosen the Camp of Belief, and youve obviously chosen the opposite camp. Theres no reason why people in different camps cant get along. But when its a question of which camp will set national policy, the stakes become a lot higher.
As a believer, I say that the Land of Israel is given to the Jews and to no other nation, although we have to live up to the covenant in order to keep it. But voluntarily giving away any part of the land, or retreating from any part of it when not forced to do so, is an act of rebellion against the Almighty which will surely bring very bad results. We can see this in Israels disastrous evacuation of Jewish communities from Gaza in 2005 which led directly to the current war, which never would have happened if Israel has retained its grip on the land.
I assume youll disagree with everything I say because you disagree with my basic premise. And thats OK. Youre free to work against Israel, slander it, and try to undermine it any way you can. But Im pretty sure all your efforts will be in vain, and Israel, with the help of God, will ultimately prevail over all of its adversaries and be the light unto the nations that it was created to be.
Martin Wasserman
> On Jun 19, 2025, at 4:50 PM, Aram James
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> Hi Marty,
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> You are correct! I’m dealing with what I can only describe as a mental disorder: extreme aversion to Zionism syndrome. If youre interested, you can check out the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition) for a detailed explanation of the symptoms.
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> By the way, I might have inherited this condition from my father, who was originally named Daniel Ben Ezra Fink but later changed it to Stephen Daniel James. He eventually became the founder and president of "Jews for Anti-Semitism." Ive attached a copy of his obituary that was published in the New York Times in 1998. He was quite a contrarian Jew.
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> He celebrated his bar mitzvah at age 13 under the condition set by my grandfather, Louis Byer Finkelstein (who was an early misguided Zionist) that if he completed the bar mitzvah obligations, he wouldnt have to enter a synagogue again. At 13, my dad was offended by my grandfather and his friends, who all claimed that Jews were the chosen people. In my dads view, that belief was nonsense; he believed that either everyone or no one could be Gods chosen people.
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> Marty, I have to say that my aversion to wacked out zionists seems to intensify, be triggered, every time you write your unaduultrated bullshit about the rogue, illegitimate state of Israel.
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> Avram “ No More Wacked Zionists” Finkelstein
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>> Avram,
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>> Every time I point out the falsity of your arguments, which is very easy to do, you never respond with evidence to try to prove me wrong. Instead, you just ignore it and refuse to engage. What this tells me is that you know your arguments are indefensible, and can’t stand up to honest scrutiny.
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>> You say you love Jewish people, but for the State of Israel, the largest concentration of Jews in the world, you express nothing but extreme hatred, probably related to your own self-hatred. You advocate that the entire Jewish population of Israel, over 7 million people, be forcibly expelled from their homes, driven out of their ancestral homeland, and relocated to some far corner of the Earth, where they would still be expected to pay reparations to the Palestinians for the rest of their lives. Its hard for me to see this as anything other than an extreme form of anti-Semitism. The fact that you identify as Jewish makes it even harder to understand and seems to indicate some kind of mental disorder.
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>> Martin Wasserman
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>>> On Jun 18, 2025, at 10:14 PM, Aram James > wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 10:00 PM Aram James > wrote:
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>>>>> Martin,
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>>>>> Good try ! You are precisely the guy who refuses to speak the truth about Israel on any level. The falsehoods you and your ilk extreme white-wing Zionist Jewish supremacists propagate are undoubtedly the reason antisemitism is in the rise worldwide. You pose an imminent danger to all Jews. As I said before: youre NO friend of the Jewish people.
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>>>> Avram “ A Self-Loving Jew to the Max” Finkelstein
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>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025, at 9:35 PM, Martin Wasserman > wrote:
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>>>>> Avram,
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>>>>> You seem to have two different standards for judging nations, a very harsh one for Israel and a very lenient one for all others. The fact is, almost all very successful nations are established through bloodshed, domination, extermination, and ethnic cleansing. This is certainly true of Arab and Muslim nations, who carried out these policies against Israel right from the very beginning, although fortunately Israel was able to defend itself. Today, Hamas, which you bizarrely characterize as "freedom fighters,” continues to carry out an explicit policy of bloodshed, domination, extermination, and ethnic cleansing of Jews, although with no more success than their predecessors.
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>>>>> You say you despise anyone who carries out ethnic cleansing, yet that’s precisely what you advocate be done to the Jews of Israel. It seems that the traits you most despise in others are the very ones that you carry within yourself. The phrase "self-hating" might be appropriate here.
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>>>>> You say you love the Jewish community, but I havent seen any evidence of that. You constantly spew libelous falsehoods against the worlds only Jewish state, falsehoods so easily disproved that its hard to imagine you actually believe them yourself. For example, if Israel is trying to exterminate the Palestinians, how do you explain the fact that there are so many more Palestinians living in Israel today that they were in 1948?
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>>>>> Martin Wasserman
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>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2025, at 7:03 PM, Aram James > wrote:
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>>>>>> Martin,
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>>>>>> I love my Jewish community, but I also believe it’s fair to say that I despise any nation, including Israel, that was established through bloodshed, domination, extermination, and ethnic cleansing of another people. Israel fits this description to the letter. Any Jew who does not advocate for the dismantling of Israel is, in my view, contributing to anti-Semitism.
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>>>>>> Martin, I must say you are not a true friend to Jewish people.
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>>>>>> Avram “ Eliminate The State Of Israel” Finkelstein.
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>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 6:14 PM Aram James > wrote:
>>>>>>> Martin,
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>>>>>>> I love my Jewish community, but I also believe it’s fair to say that I despise any nation, including Israel, that was established through bloodshed, domination, extermination, and ethnic cleansing of another people. Israel fits this description to the letter. Any Jew who does not advocate for the dismantling of Israel is, in my view, contributing to anti-Semitism.
>>>>>>> Martin, I must say you are not a true friend to Jewish people.
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>>>>>>> Avram “ Eliminate The State Of Israel” Finkelstein.
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>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 2:51 PM Martin Wasserman > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Avram,
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>>>>>>>> As someone who identifies as a Jew, the intensity of your animosity toward the Jewish state strikes me as rather abnormal. Im genuinely interested in how you got this way. Did you always hate Israel? Was there some incident in your life that triggered the hatred? Have you ever actually lived in Israel and experienced the people and culture firsthand? And last, heres a question that every Jew should be able to answer: do you believe in God?
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>>>>>>>> Martin Wasserman
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>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2025, at 9:43 PM, Aram James > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Marty,
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>>>>>>>>> Israel is pursuing peace, my ass, while simultaneously threatening with the barrel of a shotgun to your head and having nuclear weapons on standby. It is a militaristic and relentlessly violent society, routinely targeting innocent women and children. You’re right, Marty: if I were in charge, I would relocate all Israelis to Canada, with the land managed by Indigenous Canadians. Palestine would be returned to the Palestinians, and Israelis would pay reparations to them to help rebuild their country for at least the next 76 years.
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>>>>>>>>> Avram “Israel is a dying state” Finkelstein
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>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025, at 4:46 PM, Martin Wasserman > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Avram,
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>>>>>>>>>> Time will tell which one of us is telling the truth and which one is delusional. The truth is that Israel has always sought peace with the Arabs, even going so far as to make major territorial concessions in the hope of achieving it. But the Arab leadership, including both Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, have continued to oppose Israels existence and used every means at their disposal, both military and political, to try to destroy it.
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>>>>>>>>>> Also, if you think genocide is evil, why do you not condemn Hamas, whose official charter explicitly calls for the death of every Jew on earth, rather than characterizing them as “freedom fighters”?
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>>>>>>>>>> I believe youve also called for the "ethnic cleansing" of Jews from Israel, saying that they should be forced to return to their countries of origin. But Israel IS their country of origin, a fact you seem unable to grasp.
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>>>>>>>>>> Martin Wasserman
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2025, at 12:37 PM, Aram James > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Martin,
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>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that you are trapped in a delusional drug-like trance, believing that Israel 🇮🇱 is not the aggressive, war-mongering, and genocidal entity that the rest of the world clearly sees and condemns.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Avram “ One State Solution!” Finkelstein
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025, at 9:54 AM, Martin Wasserman > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The driving force of the Israeli-Arab conflict has been the refusal of Arab leaders to accept the restoration of the ancient Jewish nation in the land of its birth, an event explicitly foretold by the Almighty many years ago. When the Jews returned to the Holy Land, they did not come with malice toward the Arabs, but Arab leaders had plenty of malice toward them. They waged war to prevent Israel from being established but were defeated. Nevertheless, they never gave up their hope of destroying the Jewish state and continued to fight it in one way or another, bringing more disaster upon their own people every step of the way. The suffering of the Palestinians today is entirely self-inflicted. They chose the path of war rather than peace and continue to pay the consequences.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Martin Wasserman
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2025, at 9:25 PM, Aram James > wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Linda,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent job! Thanks for being a truth teller.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aram
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 9:18 PM Linda Jolley > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be enough that Amnesty International and many other sources have detailed Israels aggressiion over many decades. But if that is not enough then I am old enough to report what I heard first-hand. I can remember continual radio reports of giant camps of Palestinian refugees in desperate condition after being driven off their lands. Also, I had a first-hand report from a woman who said her parents were Palestinians when Israelis came storming into their village: "They seized our homes and our gas station that supported our family," she said.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Wasserman, you are a liar. God will not support you and your ilk.
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