> **Date: 6/19/2025**
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> You are absolutely right. I will continue to do everything I can to
> advocate for the elimination of the illegitimate state of Israel and its
> ultimate return to the Palestinian people.
>
> Avram
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 9:02 PM, Aram James
wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/1998/02/23/arts/stephen-james-73-cold-war-peaceabd
> -advocate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.QU8.hvtH.ACi9-CR-pEVj&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 8:42 PM Martin Wasserman
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Avram,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your family background with me. It explains a lot. But
>> your fathers obituary that you said was attached to the email wasnt
>> there. Please send it because Im interested in reading it.
>>
>>
>> I would divide Jews into two main camps, what I call the Camp of Belief
>> and the Camp of Disbelief. A believer would say that God is real, His
>> covenant with Israel is real, its applicable to all generations of Jews,
>> and if we fulfill the terms of the covenant we’ll be assured of great
>> blessings, but if we rebel against it or refuse to follow it, we’ll be
>> subjected to great calamities. A disbeliever would say that God doesnt
>> exist, theres no covenant, theres no need to obey any biblical laws, and
>> everyone should do exactly as they please.
>>
>>
>> Since neither camp can prove its case empirically, belief or disbelief is
>> largely a matter of choice. Ive chosen the Camp of Belief, and youve
>> obviously chosen the opposite camp. Theres no reason why people in
>> different camps cant get along. But when its a question of which camp
>> will set national policy, the stakes become a lot higher.
>>
>>
>> As a believer, I say that the Land of Israel is given to the Jews and to
>> no other nation, although we have to live up to the covenant in order to
>> keep it. But voluntarily giving away any part of the land, or retreating
>> from any part of it when not forced to do so, is an act of rebellion
>> against the Almighty which will surely bring very bad results. We can see
>> this in Israels disastrous evacuation of Jewish communities from Gaza in
>> 2005 which led directly to the current war, which never would have happened
>> if Israel has retained its grip on the land.
>>
>>
>> I assume youll disagree with everything I say because you disagree with
>> my basic premise. And thats OK. Youre free to work against Israel,
>> slander it, and try to undermine it any way you can. But Im pretty sure
>> all your efforts will be in vain, and Israel, with the help of God, will
>> ultimately prevail over all of its adversaries and be the light unto the
>> nations that it was created to be.
>>
>>
>> Martin Wasserman
>>
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2025, at 4:50 PM, Aram James wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marty,
>>
>> You are correct! I’m dealing with what I can only describe as a mental
>> disorder: extreme aversion to Zionism syndrome. If youre interested, you
>> can check out the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental
>> Disorders, Fifth Edition) for a detailed explanation of the symptoms.
>>
>> By the way, I might have inherited this condition from my father, who was
>> originally named Daniel Ben Ezra Fink but later changed it to Stephen
>> Daniel James. He eventually became the founder and president of "Jews for
>> Anti-Semitism." Ive attached a copy of his obituary that was published in
>> the New York Times in 1998. He was quite a contrarian Jew.
>>
>> He celebrated his bar mitzvah at age 13 under the condition set by my
>> grandfather, Louis Byer Finkelstein (who was an early misguided Zionist)
>> that if he completed the bar mitzvah obligations, he wouldnt have to enter
>> a synagogue again. At 13, my dad was offended by my grandfather and his
>> friends, who all claimed that Jews were the chosen people. In my dads
>> view, that belief was nonsense; he believed that either everyone or no one
>> could be Gods chosen people.
>>
>> Marty, I have to say that my aversion to wacked out zionists seems to
>> intensify, be triggered, every time you write your unaduultrated bullshit
>> about the rogue, illegitimate state of Israel.
>>
>> Avram “ No More Wacked Zionists” Finkelstein
>>
>> Avram,
>>>
>>> Every time I point out the falsity of your arguments, which is very easy
>>> to do, you never respond with evidence to try to prove me wrong. Instead,
>>> you just ignore it and refuse to engage. What this tells me is that you
>>> know your arguments are indefensible, and can’t stand up to honest scrutiny.
>>>
>>> You say you love Jewish people, but for the State of Israel, the largest
>>> concentration of Jews in the world, you express nothing but extreme hatred,
>>> probably related to your own self-hatred. You advocate that the entire
>>> Jewish population of Israel, over 7 million people, be forcibly expelled
>>> from their homes, driven out of their ancestral homeland, and relocated to
>>> some far corner of the Earth, where they would still be expected to pay
>>> reparations to the Palestinians for the rest of their lives. Its hard for
>>> me to see this as anything other than an extreme form of anti-Semitism. The
>>> fact that you identify as Jewish makes it even harder to understand and
>>> seems to indicate some kind of mental disorder.
>>>
>>> Martin Wasserman
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2025, at 10:14 PM, Aram James wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 10:00 PM Aram James wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Martin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Good try ! You are precisely the guy who refuses to speak the truth
>>>>> about Israel on any level. The falsehoods you and your ilk extreme
>>>>> white-wing Zionist Jewish supremacists propagate are undoubtedly the reason
>>>>> antisemitism is in the rise worldwide. You pose an imminent danger to all
>>>>> Jews. As I said before: youre NO friend of the Jewish people.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Avram “ A Self-Loving Jew to the Max” Finkelstein
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025, at 9:35 PM, Martin Wasserman
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Avram,
>>>>>
>>>>> You seem to have two different standards for judging nations, a very
>>>>> harsh one for Israel and a very lenient one for all others. The fact is,
>>>>> almost all very successful nations are established through bloodshed,
>>>>> domination, extermination, and ethnic cleansing. This is certainly true of
>>>>> Arab and Muslim nations, who carried out these policies against Israel
>>>>> right from the very beginning, although fortunately Israel was able to
>>>>> defend itself. Today, Hamas, which you bizarrely characterize as "freedom
>>>>> fighters,” continues to carry out an explicit policy of bloodshed,
>>>>> domination, extermination, and ethnic cleansing of Jews, although with no
>>>>> more success than their predecessors.
>>>>>
>>>>> You say you despise anyone who carries out ethnic cleansing, yet
>>>>> that’s precisely what you advocate be done to the Jews of Israel. It seems
>>>>> that the traits you most despise in others are the very ones that you carry
>>>>> within yourself. The phrase "self-hating" might be appropriate here.
>>>>>
>>>>> You say you love the Jewish community, but I havent seen any evidence
>>>>> of that. You constantly spew libelous falsehoods against the worlds only
>>>>> Jewish state, falsehoods so easily disproved that its hard to imagine you
>>>>> actually believe them yourself. For example, if Israel is trying to
>>>>> exterminate the Palestinians, how do you explain the fact that there are so
>>>>> many more Palestinians living in Israel today that they were in 1948?
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin Wasserman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2025, at 7:03 PM, Aram James wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>
>>>>> I love my Jewish community, but I also believe it’s fair to say that I
>>>>> despise any nation, including Israel, that was established through
>>>>> bloodshed, domination, extermination, and ethnic cleansing of another
>>>>> people. Israel fits this description to the letter. Any Jew who does not
>>>>> advocate for the dismantling of Israel is, in my view, contributing to
>>>>> anti-Semitism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin, I must say you are not a true friend to Jewish people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Avram “ Eliminate The State Of Israel” Finkelstein.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 6:14 PM Aram James wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love my Jewish community, but I also believe it’s fair to say that
>>>>>> I despise any nation, including Israel, that was established through
>>>>>> bloodshed, domination, extermination, and ethnic cleansing of another
>>>>>> people. Israel fits this description to the letter. Any Jew who does not
>>>>>> advocate for the dismantling of Israel is, in my view, contributing to
>>>>>> anti-Semitism.
>>>>>> Martin, I must say you are not a true friend to Jewish people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Avram “ Eliminate The State Of Israel” Finkelstein.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 2:51 PM Martin Wasserman
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Avram,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As someone who identifies as a Jew, the intensity of your animosity
>>>>>>> toward the Jewish state strikes me as rather abnormal. Im genuinely
>>>>>>> interested in how you got this way. Did you always hate Israel? Was there
>>>>>>> some incident in your life that triggered the hatred? Have you ever
>>>>>>> actually lived in Israel and experienced the people and culture firsthand?
>>>>>>> And last, heres a question that every Jew should be able to answer: do you
>>>>>>> believe in God?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martin Wasserman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2025, at 9:43 PM, Aram James wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marty,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israel is pursuing peace, my ass, while simultaneously threatening
>>>>>>> with the barrel of a shotgun to your head and having nuclear weapons on
>>>>>>> standby. It is a militaristic and relentlessly violent society, routinely
>>>>>>> targeting innocent women and children. You’re right, Marty: if I were in
>>>>>>> charge, I would relocate all Israelis to Canada, with the land managed by
>>>>>>> Indigenous Canadians. Palestine would be returned to the Palestinians, and
>>>>>>> Israelis would pay reparations to them to help rebuild their country for at
>>>>>>> least the next 76 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Avram “Israel is a dying state” Finkelstein
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025, at 4:46 PM, Martin Wasserman <
>>>>>>> deeperlook@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Avram,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Time will tell which one of us is telling the truth and which one
>>>>>>>> is delusional. The truth is that Israel has always sought peace with the
>>>>>>>> Arabs, even going so far as to make major territorial concessions in the
>>>>>>>> hope of achieving it. But the Arab leadership, including both Hamas and the
>>>>>>>> Palestinian Authority, have continued to oppose Israels existence and used
>>>>>>>> every means at their disposal, both military and political, to try to
>>>>>>>> destroy it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, if you think genocide is evil, why do you not condemn Hamas,
>>>>>>>> whose official charter explicitly calls for the death of every Jew on
>>>>>>>> earth, rather than characterizing them as “freedom fighters”?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe youve also called for the "ethnic cleansing" of Jews
>>>>>>>> from Israel, saying that they should be forced to return to their countries
>>>>>>>> of origin. But Israel IS their country of origin, a fact you seem unable to
>>>>>>>> grasp.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Martin Wasserman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2025, at 12:37 PM, Aram James wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It appears that you are trapped in a delusional drug-like trance,
>>>>>>>> believing that Israel 🇮🇱 is not the aggressive, war-mongering, and
>>>>>>>> genocidal entity that the rest of the world clearly sees and condemns.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Avram “ One State Solution!” Finkelstein
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025, at 9:54 AM, Martin Wasserman <
>>>>>>>> deeperlook@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The driving force of the Israeli-Arab conflict has been the
>>>>>>>>> refusal of Arab leaders to accept the restoration of the ancient Jewish
>>>>>>>>> nation in the land of its birth, an event explicitly foretold by the
>>>>>>>>> Almighty many years ago. When the Jews returned to the Holy Land, they did
>>>>>>>>> not come with malice toward the Arabs, but Arab leaders had plenty of
>>>>>>>>> malice toward them. They waged war to prevent Israel from being established
>>>>>>>>> but were defeated. Nevertheless, they never gave up their hope of
>>>>>>>>> destroying the Jewish state and continued to fight it in one way or
>>>>>>>>> another, bringing more disaster upon their own people every step of the
>>>>>>>>> way. The suffering of the Palestinians today is entirely self-inflicted.
>>>>>>>>> They chose the path of war rather than peace and continue to pay the
>>>>>>>>> consequences.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Martin Wasserman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2025, at 9:25 PM, Aram James wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Linda,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Excellent job! Thanks for being a truth teller.
>>>>>>>>> Aram
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 9:18 PM Linda Jolley <
>>>>>>>>> lindajolley9@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It should be enough that Amnesty International and many other
>>>>>>>>>> sources have detailed Israels aggressiion over many decades. But if that
>>>>>>>>>> is not enough then I am old enough to report what I heard first-hand. I
>>>>>>>>>> can remember continual radio reports of giant camps of Palestinian refugees
>>>>>>>>>> in desperate condition after being driven off their lands. Also, I had a
>>>>>>>>>> first-hand report from a woman who said her parents were Palestinians when
>>>>>>>>>> Israelis came storming into their village: "They seized our homes and our
>>>>>>>>>> gas station that supported our family," she said.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Wasserman, you are a liar. God will not support you and your
>>>>>>>>>> ilk.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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